I'm just really disappointed that you would do this to the hardest skill on the server to level. The amount of time it takes to get 90 rc is a tough one to let people get 90, then ruin the skill. When people run 5 magic log wood cutters they can make in a day, or 5 ess miners they can make in a day. It takes days to get 90 rc'ing, and the grind is long and miserable. Accounts like divinity raimus and myself have put millions into the economy by staking, buying coal, iron, nature's, essence and skilling supplies in general. You didn't nerf runecrafting, you ruined it by doing this. From 1500 per soul rune alch to 15gp? I was already getting annoyed with the supposed "updates are coming" talk we have heard since day 1. If I needed a reason to throw in the towel on this server this is it. No more subbed accounts, no more "donations" to this server. I'm out.
Time spent to 1-90 runecraft: 150-180 hours nonstop. Fire runes to 65 from whatever level they require (Can't recall atm too furious) is 2600~xp a load of 28 essence. Then, death runes from level 65 to 77, 4100~ xp a load maybe 20 loads an hour if ur fast. Hmm.. Bloods, 10k xp a load, same deal, 20 loads an hour if ur lucky to 90. Then souls, oh boy, theres over 200gp ea an pure ess spent already, your in the whole over 10-12mil by this point. You better buy 40-50 charged ammies 40-50k ea, theres more money spent, then go make souls! Woo! 1500 ea alch! 1500-200ea pure ess - 300 ea nat approximately = 1k ea. You get mobbed by 10-12 ogres lvl 58, gotta walk a rsc-20 mile course, and tele to yanille with ammy. 3.5-5 min a load of 28 souls! weooo! So much money being in game. Not. Magic logs are botted and they never get nerfed. This is bulllllsh*t. I never cleared even yet. Check my bank, you can tell. So yeah the point of this is, to show how retarded this nerf is. They alch for 1500 each anyway. YOU DO NOT GET 1500 PROFIT!!! It costs 200 an ess, it cost 300 a nat usually maybe 275 if ur a lucky duck! 28k every 4-5 mins i can freaking cut 28 logs by 2 mins.
Magic longs alch for more, there are only 5 accs in game that can make souls. How many are there that can make magic longs? Check the fletching high scores and xp compared to runecrafting and do the math. Rc isn't the problem... if anything nerf magic longs. Oh wait, then 99.9% of the server would lose their gp method including my method before 90rc.
Come to find out, war machines account was banned and his gp removed. Weird right? You think they would mention that somewhere in all the topics floating around about it. Oh and like we said, it was 21m and change he made that was removed.
I understand the frustration behind training to 90 RuneCrafting, then realizing the way you were going to make profits was changed. You also have to see it from our perspective and for the longevity of the server.
Just as thieving was changed, we felt the proper course of action, was to also impose a "fix/change" to the amount alching runes gave. The value was outright ridiculous and should have never been 1500GP per.
Instead of causing spam / flame wars in-game, bashing our motives and proper reasoning behind such changes, you should focus on another way to make use of the skills you have at hand (ie: selling the runes to other players, placing them in the auction house, etc). It won't be the "cash grab" alching soul runes once was, but it's not the end of the world.
Please try to refrain from such negative remarks, as we only made such changes, to keep the server's economy stable. It was in no-way meant to cause any grief, or distrust to our motives.
In regards to "War Machine"
Come to find out, war machines account was banned and his gp removed. Weird right? You think they would mention that somewhere in all the topics floating around about it. Oh and like we said, it was 21m and change he made that was removed.
He was banned for multiple malicious things including bug abuse. Until you know the facts behind why he was banned (which is not something I will release), please try to refrain from accusations and implications regarding the matter.
Note:
We *MAY* revisit the values alching and selling runes give. This is not set in stone, but I am also not making any promises. I feel I have justified our reasoning behind the changes and will not engage in a back and forth debate regarding the matter.
Why don't you tell us how much war machine had? Maybe we can finally put an end to this 220m gp stack debate. Bad religion won't leave it alone. war machine admittedly abused a bug in runecrafting. The other 5 on server that can make souls didn't even get 90rc until after the bug was fixed. Comparing the thieving nerf to the rc nerf is shitty. You said it yourself, people thieved on multiple accounts. I saw on the news feed where 98 to 99 only took 20 minutes... This was a problem in the first day of release. I don't think it's a good comparison... I hope you guys do reevaluate alch values, because right now, runecrafting is as good as firemaking.
Why don't you tell us how much war machine had? Maybe we can finally put an end to this 220m gp stack debate. Bad religion won't leave it alone. war machine admittedly abused a bug in runecrafting. The other 5 on server that can make souls didn't even get 90rc until after the bug was fixed. Comparing the thieving nerf to the rc nerf is shitty. You said it yourself, people thieved on multiple accounts. I saw on the news feed where 98 to 99 only took 20 minutes... This was a problem in the first day of release. I don't think it's a good comparison... I hope you guys do reevaluate alch values, because right now, runecrafting is as good as firemaking.
War Machine did not have 220M (or anywhere close to that) from RuneCrafting. The OP of the thread deleted it because he realized the information he was providing was inaccurate.
Doesn't mean you're correct that he didn't exploit it heavily. He no doubt passed gp/supplies gained from it to clan mates who keep defending the bug abuse lol.
Doesn't mean you're correct that he didn't exploit it heavily. He no doubt passed gp/supplies gained from it to clan mates who keep defending the bug abuse lol.
Of course you would say that, you can't do math and you can't read. NOBODY SAID HE DIDN'T BUG ABUSE. he openly admitted he bug abused on the previous thread that was deleted. He is also banned. End of story.
Doesn't mean you're correct that he didn't exploit it heavily. He no doubt passed gp/supplies gained from it to clan mates who keep defending the bug abuse lol.
Of course you would say that, you can't do math and you can't read. NOBODY SAID HE DIDN'T BUG ABUSE. he openly admitted he bug abused on the previous thread that was deleted. He is also banned. End of story.
Aren't you the one who didn't you could alch with 100% fatigue? lol i'd like to look at his Runecrafting experience.
2 Mar 2018 10:13:23 #1